Nissan 370Z vs Scion FR-S

[Flat4_driver]

The Scion is cheaper by a good amount than the Nissan but its also slower and less powerful(at least with the current expected specs). But for the amount of money you save you can make the FR-S faster than the 370Z. It already is supposed to handle better plus the 370Z has overheating issues when pushed too hard. Just wanted to throw that out there since I know people will cross-shop the 370Z with FR-S when it comes out.

[FR_S_Fan]

I would personally go for the FR-S and make it faster than the 370Z. Isn't the 370Z in a different class than the FR-S.?

Since im into circuit racing, the FR-S seems to be the better car. But i really need to see them being track tested.

[AE86]

The 370 seems to look like a pig and handle like a pig, while the fr-s does seem to weight in at a lighter number but we wont know for sure yet till we get some real numbers, power-weight ratio's do make a huge diffrence no matter what it is.

[crazyyankeefan]

what kinda pot are you smoking? 370z is simply a superior car in every way. just cuz you can't afford it, doesn't mean it's not a good car. it's a true sports car. FR-S will be a decent car and will probably sell very well. however, it's simply not in the same class as 370z. if you actually calculate the power-weight ratio, FR-S is just a RWD celica GTS. Nissan has been making legendary sports cars way longer than Toyota. just cuz all the sudden Toyota came out with this new GT-86, it doesn't mean it will be a better in any way than a Z

[veloist]

it's simply not in the same class as 370z.

I completely agree with this. Price-wise and performance-wise, the FR-S is better off competing with Miatas and GTI's and I think it was even intended to compete with a Cayman. That said, one could argue that the 370z is a better car in terms of those characteristics, but I think it's really up to the interest of the owner to decide which one is better, personally, for them. In other words, it's a very ambiguous discussion to enter, and there will be plenty of bias and subjective reasoning going on.

For instance, I'd choose the FR-S anyday over the 370z. First reason, because it's base price is significantly cheaper, and secondly, I admit that I'm biased because my family has owned Toyotas my whole life (my dad is a freaking Toyota Salesman...) and I (we) just have so much pride in them, which is why I'm just so excited for this car to come out. Now if my dad had nothing to do with the auto industry or Toyota, I wouldn't be so subjective with my decisions on cars.

[import_nation]

Definitely a different class. But I do have one thing to say. I test drove one yesterday. A friend at work just bought one brand new. Drives great. Transmission is nice, engine sounds sexy. He got the convertible version.

I brought up a few things to him that made him realize he needs to bring the car back to the dealership. The interior fitment was not that great. Certain things between the dash and other trims were sort of loose. When you close the door there is a big gap between the glass and the convertible top. When we drove you could hear the wind come in.

I've been in 350zs before and the interior on that thing is hideous. The quality of the interior was also terrible. Same goes for the G35. I love the VQ35 but I think Nissan needs to step it up in terms of fitment and quality of interior. There was an R35 at the dealership and I pointed out to the salesperson that the rear bumper wasn't on properly. He called a mechanic over and they removed the bumper on the spot to reinstall it and it still didn't fit properly.

I've never owned a Nissan or Infiniti but I know the new G37s are great quality. They seriously need to step up the other cars though. The interior on the new Pathfinder. Maxima, Altima. Aren't up to the level that consumers are use to seeing.

Thats just my opinion.

IN terms of performance of 370z/350z vs FR-S. Off the line the V6 will leave the boxer 4 in the dust. But around the track we have yet to see.

[AE86]

what kinda pot are you smoking? 370z is simply a superior car in every way. just cuz you can't afford it, doesn't mean it's not a good car. it's a true sports car. FR-S will be a decent car and will probably sell very well. however, it's simply not in the same class as 370z. if you actually calculate the power-weight ratio, FR-S is just a RWD celica GTS. Nissan has been making legendary sports cars way longer than Toyota. just cuz all the sudden Toyota came out with this new GT-86, it doesn't mean it will be a better in any way than a Z

One of the Most famous debates since time 350Z vs S2000 Even drivers on best motoring complain about the 350Z mainly being because of its weight. It so you want to compare performance and price a STOCK 2000 Integra Type R Will Spank the doors off a Stock 350Z Around the track, and i will put money down a Stock FR-S Will Spank the doors off a 370Z around the track.

And it really comes down to weight, your true 3600LBS sports car suffers things thing called weight. I dont think you've looked very deep into what makes cars fast and what is a "true sports car" FR-S is a Cheaper Sports car while the 370 is market as a higher end Luxury sports car as well.

Also heres something into perfspect with weight

Turbo RSX 400HP/300LBS
weighting in @ 2700 LBS

More power full Camaro SS more power, more weight,


If you want to count that Far Back Toyota has tons of sports cars too , Datsun 240Z. Vs Toyota 2000 GT and so fourth, just because Nissan have had their GTR's and what not doesn't make them an over all amazing sports car maker.

Also factoring its not a RWD Celica due to the fact of flat 4 motor and also being able to make lot of power, since the motor design has been put into high HP configurations sure.

Z arnt Nissan Halo car, sure it looks great but it is beyond anything Mind blowing, if i wanted a 3600 Pound Pig i'd go buy myself a GTR thanks.



The only reason why a 350 or 370z may be that amazing is only because of the extra power it produce, if you had both the 370 and fr-s with the exact same numbers bye bye 370z

[rwdftw]

370Z 1/4 Time
R/T .406
60' 2.235
330 5.895
1/8 8.897
mph 82.21
1000 11.515
1/4 13.738
mph 101.32

350Z
but a bad 60 ft time
R/T .131
60' 2.252
1/8 9.16
MPH 79,78
1/4 14.044
MPH 101.83

Its impressive but not amazing thats all im saying here

[crazyyankeefan]

Interior-wise, the 370Z is definitely an upgrade to the 350Z, but it's hardly decent. I'm curious to see how the FR-S interior looks and feels like. I would assume the BRZ to have better interior in materials than the FR-S cuz Scion usually have the cheapest interior materials possible.

I agree with the previous post that the 370Z doesn't really have overly impressive power, but it does hit 60 in less than 5. It's not a supercar of course, and it certainly wasn't designed to be one. I do like what I see overall as a car for the FR-S/BRZ, but the major problem I have would be the lack of power (4-cylinder only...seriously?) on such a relatively heavy car.

[dboz]

Get a used 370z, add a STILLEN supercharger kit, be under $35k and have 500 horsepower.The 370 is a heavy car but it can take a lot of power. But compared to spending money modding a 200hp car to that level, the 370Z would be the way to go. For $25k I can't see the BRZ or FR-S having some phenomenal interior.

If you want more horsepower, this new platform is probably not the way to go. Can it be made faster, probably, but you are starting with a small displacement engine with high compression. Start with a better car. To me, if you are comparing the two, get the 370Z slightly used for 27-28k (barely more than a new FR-S and probably well cared for due to the expense of a new Z). Save up the 5-6k for the supercharger, bolt it on and have a street terror with SERIOUS power. Even though the FR-S is light, it is going to be expensive and you need to be a pioneer getting there. The Z is a proven platform with a proven aftermarket.

[import_nation]

Like I said before its a pretty different comparison. The 370z is a V6. Its got torque, its heavy, its expensive

The FR-S is suppose to be a cheap RWD, 4 cylinder, light and agile. Should be fun to drive around a corner.

Imagine how cheap used FR-S are going to be. If its 25K brand new I see used ones going under 20K within 2 years.

[Draco-REX]

The FR-S has a lower CG, lower polar moment, and lower weight than the 370Z. Three things that matter a LOT to a car's handling.

370Z 1/4 Time
R/T .406
60' 2.235
330 5.895
1/8 8.897
mph 82.21
1000 11.515
1/4 13.738
mph 101.32

350Z
but a bad 60 ft time
R/T .131
60' 2.252
1/8 9.16
MPH 79,78
1/4 14.044
MPH 101.83

Its impressive but not amazing thats all im saying here

If you're comparing 1/4mi times, you're missing the whole point of the FR-S.

[Mino]

I was considering the 370z the only car that I was actually thinking that would go against the FR-S for me. I know different classes, price differences... But after today I saw Chris Harris's video (a guy that owns really really good cars and test drives a lot of them said the FR-S excites him) made my final decision.

[import_nation]

The frs is going to be a fun car to drive. Don't know if it makes a difference but the 370z prob consumes more gas and cost more to maintain. You can only compare the 370z used. The frs is a brand new car. Plus if you go up to 370z price there are other cars in that class to compare it to.

[dboz]

If you go with price and power, there is no comparison for 500hp. You do a supercharger on a Mustang GT, Camaro SS or 370Z. All RWD, two door coupes. All handle well. All are fun. I don't get where you guys think only a small car with light weight can be fun to drive. It may be CHEAP and fun, but are you really trying to say a high horsepower car that weighs more is not fun?? I surely cannot see how a 500+ HP car, regardless of weight cannot be fun to drive. That is stupid power for the street or track for almost any amateur. This just gets back to the Japanese import scene in general. If you like that type of platform only (small and not much power that can be modified for more power and is cheap) I am all for it, but you dismiss other cars simply based on bias.