FT-86 Modern Toyota problems?!?!

[Driftr]

Well we all know how Toyota's gas pedals and floor mats are right now....
are they going to have the same type of pedals as the sticking ones or are we going to see a totally different pedal type??

[whaap]

Unfortunately the problem is beyond floor mats and sticking gas pedals. Toyota lost a lot of points with me. Not because they have had some recalls; all manufacturers have that. What bothers me most is the methods they've used to apparently hide a lot of the facts about the problem.

My jury is still out. I've had 5 Toyotas in the past that were flawless but I would be reluctant to buy one tomorrow. Time will tell.

[Jason.MZW20]

I remain thoroughly neutral on the subject, but really guys? The floor mat recall was a joke. Any pedal can get stuck if you use the wrong floor mat or stack mats on top of each other. There's a reason floor mats are designed per vehicle and there's a reason for the floor mat anchors.

The sticky pedals would only stick partially open (not wide open) and could be slow to return to the rest position. That's what happens when you only have one return spring in the pedal and you create a design that has a bit more friction/wear. The Denso pedal isn't designed like that.

As for the electronics, I'd really like someone to prove it. It's very easy to say it's the electronics, but terribly difficult to prove.

It's all relative.

If there are 10,000 complaints of UA with 10,000,000 Toyotas sold, the complaint percentage is 0.001% of all vehicles sold over a period of time.

[Ice|Burn]

I've been reading as much as I can and I keep coming across things like "direct throttle control" and "instant access to power through the throttle." I'm hoping that they have down away with the drive by wire system on the 86.

[Project.p]

drive by wire won't be going any where any time soon. I bet you the FT-86 will have it. However, it may be made by a different company and/or have an "updated" design.

[JonFT86]

drive by wire won't be going any where any time soon. I bet you the FT-86 will have it. However, it may be made by a different company and/or have an "updated" design.

And hopefully with that said, it will have ZERO problems.

[Nemesis]

I have a 2001 prius with drive by wire as well as my saturn sky redline, and the current BMW 5 series I drive and I have never had an issue with any of them. I would imagine it is a design/product flaw and will go away with the next gen of products.

[Driftr]

I have a 2001 prius with drive by wire as well as my saturn sky redline, and the current BMW 5 series I drive and I have never had an issue with any of them. I would imagine it is a design/product flaw and will go away with the next gen of products.

Hmmm well you know how the currents Toyota models have the same pedal issue are all those models related somehow ranging from parts to engines?

[Administrator]

drive by wire won't be going any where any time soon. I bet you the FT-86 will have it. However, it may be made by a different company and/or have an "updated" design.

I agree, drive by wire is the way to go for many manufacturers these days. Personally I am not a fan as I have worked on many BMWs that have had the system fail only after a few years of use. A good old cable to the throttle plate works fine for me.

Hmmm well you know how the currents Toyota models have the same pedal issue are all those models related somehow ranging from parts to engines?

They are related in regards to the pedals. Engines are shared between a few models as well. The parts are standard from brakes to wheel bearings also. All car manufacturers share parts from model to model.

Nadeem

[Jason.MZW20]

Toyota has three manufacturers of their DBW pedals:

Denso (Japan)
CTS (USA)
Delphi (USA)

The CTS pedals are used in North American produced vehicles and also European models.

Denso pedals are used in Japanese produced models and some North American hybrid models.

Delphi pedals are used in the 2005+ Tacoma produced at NUMMI, but since NUMMI may close, I'm not sure if this will continue. The connector for the Delphi pedal is totally different from the Denso and CTS pedals, but it is electrically compatible.

[Junior]

And hopefully with that said, it will have ZERO problems.

(fingers crossed)

[Driftr]

(fingers crossed)

I know right this car looks amazing its going to have amazing specs and performance parts all it needs now is the quality and reliability

[4getu]

I can't wait to see the final stages of this car.

[Guss]

I am starting to have more and more faith that Toyota will start to renew its image with this car.

[Driftr]

I am starting to have more and more faith that Toyota will start to renew its image with this car.

I agree its like there starting from scratch once again which is always a good thing especially for different models